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	<title>Comments on: Vanguard Vector</title>
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		<title>By: thehoar</title>
		<link>http://www.surfacehoar.com/2008/04/vanguard-vector/comment-page-1/#comment-9964</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Aug 2011 20:52:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>it&#039;s the round hull shape combined with the tall mast and narrow waterline that make it tip over.  If you can put on of it&#039;s &quot;wings&quot; over a dock, then tie from that edge to a cleat it&#039;ll stay upright.  That&#039;s what I&#039;d do when launching solo.  A bulb would fix it, but I&#039;m not sure on the weight needed nor how much weight the centerboard trunk can handle.  When I worked at vanguard I suggested it to the designer and he laughed, but then another customer sent in pictures of his boat WITH a lead daggerboard built.  He supposedly cut his centerboard in half, scraped out the foam from the bottom, glued it back together and then filled it with lead shot.  You&#039;d need to make sure you secured the board if you ever turtled though. 

If you can afford a 29er (I know they cost more) that solves the issue though as they have a flat enough bottom they&#039;ll stay up for a bit. 

Good Luck! 

Ben</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it&#8217;s the round hull shape combined with the tall mast and narrow waterline that make it tip over.  If you can put on of it&#8217;s &#8220;wings&#8221; over a dock, then tie from that edge to a cleat it&#8217;ll stay upright.  That&#8217;s what I&#8217;d do when launching solo.  A bulb would fix it, but I&#8217;m not sure on the weight needed nor how much weight the centerboard trunk can handle.  When I worked at vanguard I suggested it to the designer and he laughed, but then another customer sent in pictures of his boat WITH a lead daggerboard built.  He supposedly cut his centerboard in half, scraped out the foam from the bottom, glued it back together and then filled it with lead shot.  You&#8217;d need to make sure you secured the board if you ever turtled though. </p>
<p>If you can afford a 29er (I know they cost more) that solves the issue though as they have a flat enough bottom they&#8217;ll stay up for a bit. </p>
<p>Good Luck! </p>
<p>Ben</p>
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		<title>By: Randy</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Aug 2011 19:15:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,
Considering about buying a used Vector. Looks like a good boat for me. Was surprised to hear it will not stay upright at the dock by itself without sails. Would I need to have 4 or more lines on it to keep it upright if I want to leave it in the water?  Sounds silly, what if I added a 50 lb bulb to the dagger board? Probably help the irons issue too. Think this would keep right side up?  Any comments welcome.
Thanks
Randy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,<br />
Considering about buying a used Vector. Looks like a good boat for me. Was surprised to hear it will not stay upright at the dock by itself without sails. Would I need to have 4 or more lines on it to keep it upright if I want to leave it in the water?  Sounds silly, what if I added a 50 lb bulb to the dagger board? Probably help the irons issue too. Think this would keep right side up?  Any comments welcome.<br />
Thanks<br />
Randy</p>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 20:51:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ben,
I enjoyed reading about your experience with the Vector. I am considering buying one (it&#039;s in excellent shape and is being offered at a good price), and would value your opinion. I am an intermediate sailor looking for a boat I can race with my teenager. I know the Vector is too much boat for me now, but am wondering if my son and I could grow into it together. My question to you: how long would it take a typical intermediate sailor to get comfortable on the Vector? Would it be worth the learning curve, or am I better off looking for a 2-handed skiff that is easier to sail? Thanks for your thoughts on this.
Bill 
wwhitt@executiveboard.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ben,<br />
I enjoyed reading about your experience with the Vector. I am considering buying one (it&#8217;s in excellent shape and is being offered at a good price), and would value your opinion. I am an intermediate sailor looking for a boat I can race with my teenager. I know the Vector is too much boat for me now, but am wondering if my son and I could grow into it together. My question to you: how long would it take a typical intermediate sailor to get comfortable on the Vector? Would it be worth the learning curve, or am I better off looking for a 2-handed skiff that is easier to sail? Thanks for your thoughts on this.<br />
Bill<br />
<a href="mailto:wwhitt@executiveboard.com">wwhitt@executiveboard.com</a></p>
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